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Post by !Chad! on Sept 13, 2010 1:01:37 GMT -5
First Question: What makes you a better game player than the person beside you? |
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Post by Jeff Probst on Sept 13, 2010 19:52:36 GMT -5
What makes you a better game player than the person beside you?
Obviously Will played a better social game than I did I won't dispute that.
What i did better...Based on what i'm hearing Will basically had a 4-way alliance from day 1 & then changed it to include me & Adam,so he was basically in no danger. I on the other hand had to actually fend for myself. I aligned with MLP & I believe that she would have kept me safe at a tribal if we had gone more often.
Challenge wise I won immunity twice. Will won once.
Strategically I think I played better it was my idea to have the tribe load me with karma to keep the alliance safe in case there was a tie at tribal. This was at a crucial time in the game because if one of the alliance that I belonged to had been voted out this game would have had an entirely different outcome. It was also my idea to load up MLP with negative karma to offset any karma that the others gave her.
At both live tribals Will came to me & asked who to vote & both times the vote was who I suggested.
Will played a good game but I'm sitting here in F2 having not spent countless hours on AIM making promises to people that I couldn't keep. Did i lie to anyone ? Is anyone bitter at me because I voted them out ?
Stop & think to yourself... how much time did you spend on AIM strategizing, making alliances & talking to people that you knew you were going to screw over ? What did it get you ? Here I am in F2 & I barely spent anytime on AIM.
To me that makes me the better player.
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Post by Mikecrossword on Sept 13, 2010 23:44:05 GMT -5
The alliance that I had with MLP, John, and Lindsay made me feel in danger. That is precisely why I voted out John and got you on my side with MLP. You believe MLP would have kept you safe, but what would you have done if we backstabbed her once she stopped winning immunity? You didn’t do anything for yourself. You relied on me, MLP, and Adam. The first immunity you won because MLP (mostly), Adam, and I gave you karma. You had no effect on you winning immunity. So in reality, MLP, Adam, I won you one immunity, you won one for yourself (when I was unavailable), and I won another. See last answer. For the record, I asked you, MLP, and Adam how we were going to vote at each of the live TCs. It’s the same discussion MLP, Adam, and I had on AIM before each vote. Both times, you suggested Adam. If you were the mastermind behind this, I feel like he should at least know that you were the reason he was voted out. First off, I didn’t spend countless hours on AIM.  Secondly, I didn’t make promises to anyone I couldn’t keep. I talked with people from both sides so that if something happened and you, MLP, or Jeff was voted out, that I would have an alternative way to get to the finals. Your strategy was to trust MLP that she would carry you all the way. Just because I talked strategy with people and didn’t take them to the finals didn’t mean I made promises I couldn’t keep. I was honest with everyone the whole time. You can ask Lindsay or you can Tomas. With Lindsay, I told her all along I wanted John out. After the merge, I told her we were voting Justin and that I still wanted to work with her. After she voted for me, that ended. Tomas I talked to and said I would work with him as much as possible and maybe we could work something out at final 5. He wanted an alliance with me and Adam and after thinking about it, I told him honestly that I was not going to do it. Once you and MLP were able to cast the only votes, it became a moot point. I told Adam before we were voting him out at Final 4 at the Live TC, and I hinted at MLP that she was not going to be my selection when I referred to the fact that I would be taking the person I promised F2 to into the finals. You act as though the fact that you weren’t around made you a better player, and I completely disagree with that. This is where you’re completely wrong and full of BS. I didn’t talk to anyone with the plan of screwing them over. I planned on working with Justin before we decided to vote him out due to fear of Lindsay’s idol. I knew it was a possibility to work with Tomas at Final 5 (especially if Lindsay was still around). I worked with Lindsay all the way up until she voted me. I didn’t talk to people knowing I was going to screw them over. On that tangent, what’s wrong with talking to people that you might vote out? What did it get me? I have friendships and contacts with people. Maybe they don’t vote for me, maybe they do. But, I am not the shitty person you’re making it seem. Finally, you are in the F2 not despite the fact that you were never on AIM. You are in the final two BECAUSE you were never online. You were never part of the voting decisions. You would PM me (and probably MLP and Adam) before each vote and ask how I wanted you to vote each (non-live) round. You’re not here because you’re a great player. If I wanted to take a great player, I would have taken Tomas or MLP or Adam or Lindsay. You are in the final two because you are a poor player. |
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Post by Jeff Probst on Sept 14, 2010 18:54:10 GMT -5
Do you have any idea how stupid that statement is ?
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Post by Mikecrossword on Sept 14, 2010 19:07:08 GMT -5
Do you have any idea how stupid that statement is ? Well, at least we agree on all the rest. |
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Post by Fat Joe on Sept 14, 2010 19:39:17 GMT -5
yeah you thought about it alright, for 10 minutes, which makes me think you never thought about it..... however it is true you didn't break any promises.
also that last statement is a bit over dramatic.
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Secondly, I didn’t make promises to anyone I couldn’t keep. I talked with people from both sides so that if something happened and you, MLP, or Jeff was voted out, that I would have an alternative way to get to the finals. Your strategy was to trust MLP that she would carry you all the way. Just because I talked strategy with people and didn’t take them to the finals didn’t mean I made promises I couldn’t keep. I was honest with everyone the whole time. You can ask Lindsay or you can Tomas. With Lindsay, I told her all along I wanted John out. After the merge, I told her we were voting Justin and that I still wanted to work with her. After she voted for me, that ended. Tomas I talked to and said I would work with him as much as possible and maybe we could work something out at final 5. He wanted an alliance with me and Adam and after thinking about it, I told him honestly that I was not going to do it. Once you and MLP were able to cast the only votes, it became a moot point. I told Adam before we were voting him out at Final 4 at the Live TC, and I hinted at MLP that she was not going to be my selection when I referred to the fact that I would be taking the person I promised F2 to into the finals. You act as though the fact that you weren’t around made you a better player, and I completely disagree with that.