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Post by Kaysar/Mark (realityluver) on Dec 16, 2010 22:10:51 GMT -5
Hey you guys. I would like to congratulate all three of you for making it to the finals. It must have taken some work. I haven't really talked to any of you guys before, so I'm not sure how exactly I'm going to vote.
ALL 1. Rank the jurors in order of biggest threat to smallest threat (exclude Mariah and I). Explain your rankings. 2. Why should I not vote for the other two you're up against? 3. Why should I vote for you?
JULIE 1. You got saved by Kelli at the last second, and now you're standing in the finals. Why did you vote her out, even though she saved you? (BTW I haven't talked to Kelli, so this is merely an observation)
CARRIE 1. What things in this game have you done that you think is devious?
KE$HA 1. We were on the same tribe together, and you saved me when I self-voted, so thank you for that. Do you think your backstabbing others might have ruined your chances at winning?
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Post by Kathy Griffin [Katie] on Dec 16, 2010 22:44:02 GMT -5
1. Rank the jurors in order of biggest threat to smallest threat (exclude Mariah and I). Explain your rankings.1. Chris, He was a challenge whore who had not burned any bridges or make any enemies. 2. AJ, Won last season. Enough said. 3. Nick, Was well liked and a huge social and physical threat. 4. Jacob, Had alot of friends and almost had the game in his hands at merge. 5. Kiefer, Made a huge impact early on and couldn't have been underestimated. 6. Kelli, So under the radar that she had a great shot at winning. 7. Tom, He didn't burn any bridges and was very loyal. 2. Why should I not vote for the other two you're up against?You shouldn't vote for Carrie because she lacked challenge strength and commitment to this game at times, such as self voting. She relied too much on her alliances and didn't make any bold moves. She caused some drama too. I would be proud to lose to her though, in fairness. You shouldn't vote for Julie for almost the same reasons as Carrie, they played very similiarly except Julie made more bold moves but caused more drama. She was never completely aware of what was going on in my opinion. Both of them really did not take any risks. 3. Why should I vote for you?You should vote for me because I was the only person to play a well rounded game. I had a set strategy I stuck to, I was social when needed be, and I won challenges when it was crucial for me to stay in the game. I had two alliances that presumably did not know about each other and I steered them to the final 6 as I planned. I made very few mistakes in this game while taking quite a few risks. 1. We were on the same tribe together, and you saved me when I self-voted, so thank you for that. Do you think your backstabbing others might have ruined your chances at winning?Your welcome, you were nice to me and I wanted to return the favor. In the game of survivor, the smart players have always had to backstab atleast one person in some sort of way. It is inevitable in most players strategies. I only burned one or two bridges I believe, and there are seven other votes that I think are in play. It could have hurt my chances but atleast I took the risk. No risk, no reward. Thanks David.
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Post by Carrie Underwood (someome) on Dec 17, 2010 3:04:30 GMT -5
ALL 1. Rank the jurors in order of biggest threat to smallest threat (exclude Mariah and I). Explain your rankings.
Well I have to go with personal threat to me, and not just as a whole. So personally, anyone who wasnt aligned with me was a bigger threat than someone that showed some level of loyalty to me, they might have beaten me at the end, but at least with those people I would have made it to the end and had a shot. 1. Chris- He really wanted me out for whatever reason. And he dominated challenges 2. Tom- Very well liked and he and I never had an alliance or anything so I didnt feel like he would help me when push came to shove 3. Jacob- He and I were never aligned and he also came from the tribe with the majority, so I felt like he was a big threat to me 4. Kiefer- Speaking as post-Jacob vote off. I feel like before that he was less of a threat than Jacob thats why I didnt target him first. But I knew he wasnt going to align with me, he already had a plan and I didnt fit in that. 5. Kelli- Kinda UTR and we never really had a huge connection beyond speaking online one night. But I felt she was more loyal to me than the previous 4 were 6. Nick- Nick was my friend in the game and I really did trust him, I did think he would beat me in the finals. But I felt like had he have not been willing to flip at merge that I would have been gone at like final 10. 7. AJ- She was very threatening as a whole, and as an all around player, but not to me personally because she was my close ally from day 2. And I knew she had a big target and people would vote for eventually. I knew she would win if she got to the finals, but I also knew people would never actually let her get to the finals.
2. Why should I not vote for the other two you're up against?
Kesha- I was a little more open about my votes and what I was doing than Ke$ha, I was pretty upfront about who I was voting, I told Jacob I voted him the round I did, Kiefer knew I was voting him and I just didnt try to make side deals with people "knowing" I would go back on them, of course deals were made that I eventually didnt make good on, but I didnt form any with the original intent to betray. And I feel like Ke$ha stabbed more people in the back, and maybe made people feel like they had a shot at staying in the game when they really didnt have a chance. Betraying people is part of the game, but it would just be more "kosher" to just say "sorry im voting you this round" since they really had no way to save themselves
Julie- Julie made a lot of bold moves in the game, but certainly betrayed the most people while doing so, and lied to a lot of people that were her friends and had been close with the entire game.
3. Why should I vote for you? I think you should vote for me because going into the merge I was (clearly) in the minority, me and AJ were easy vote offs at the start since we really just had each other at the time. And the large alliance had a lot of cracks in it, but after the convo with Jacob, the flood gates opened and the alliance was virtually destroyed.....I also remained focused in the game, I felt like Chris was my biggest threat and I felt like he was "playing dumb" in our AIM convos and he was much more aware of the game then he let one, so when we voted Kiefer, I actually said we should vote Chris (though personally Kiefer and I were having problems) as the bigger threat over Kiefer because he was self destructing and nobody wanted to work with him, so I knew he wasnt getting back into anyones good graces. But Chris was a bigger threat, so I didnt make the game personal. And also, I didnt plan eliminations and tell people before votes "lets vote out ____" and then really vote out them, if I was voting someone, I either told them I was, or I just said nothing to them at all. Because I really didnt want to go out of my way to lie to people. But when I had to, I did. So I may not have played the game to my 100% ability but I played my "strategy" 100%. And though I was considered a threat, I feel like i did a great job of staying out of danger, I only had one close call and I wasnt even nervous about it, I knew Julie would pull through for me. So I set myself up with the best people I could to keep me safe.
CARRIE 1. What things in this game have you done that you think is devious? At Jacobs vote, we had a discussion about someone flipping (Jacob and I) and he said was it Kiefer or Nick? I said yes it was one of them. He asked who. I said "I promised I wouldnt say, [but you guys had a big alliance and I wasnt included] and Kesha is in the alliance" and Jacob said "THEN IT WAS KIEFER" and I allowed him to think it was Kiefer. So he freaked, and then started accusing people and people were getting ruffled and drama started and it opened a window for me to not get picked off (as the plate smash challenge said that I would)
At final 8, had I have not self voted I was gonna vote Nick that round. I felt bad about it, til I realized he voted me, so it was on. But it was devious to my allies because by not voting Nick I didnt catch heat for him leaving.
Julie/Me/AJ were together, so we kinda had 2 options at final 4 of which way to go, whether to take Kesha or AJ but we were also aligned with Kesha too.
Last thing, voting out AJ, she and I were aligned since the start (with Garrett) and she and I made it a long way together, I didnt tell her I was voting her (I would have but she wasnt online for me to even talk to her, I honestly thought she would self vote) but we had trust so that felt devious.
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Post by Nick (Jonas) on Dec 17, 2010 4:12:47 GMT -5
At final 8, had I have not self voted I was gonna vote Nick that round. I felt bad about it, til I realized he voted me, so it was on. But it was devious to my allies because by not voting Nick I didnt catch heat for him leaving. Hi yeah um, just to CLARIFY something Carrie said i never voted for you Carrie, ever, just so you know! Kthx. Not sure if you were part of this game, but Kelli and I didn't have votes that round.
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Post by Carrie Underwood (someome) on Dec 17, 2010 15:06:09 GMT -5
Sorry Nick, I forgot you guys didnt have votes, When I went back and looked I just saw the other votes for Julie and AJ and knew you didnt make those since you werent involved in the tie breaker. My mistake, Im sorry
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Post by Julie Chen [streetlightrox] on Dec 17, 2010 19:23:15 GMT -5
Rankings...
1: Chris - Strong challenge threat, was well liked by the jury, and never really backstabbed anyone. If he was sitting here, he would probably win. 2: Jacob - A big strategical threat. Also, he had good social standing with most people, and could've have been a huge threat if he lasted longer. 3: Nick - He was good with everyone, and was a strong challenge player as well. I know he doesn't really care, but I'm sorry that I voted him off. 4: AJ - She proved she was a threat by winning last season, and I'm guessing was the person the jury wanted most to win in the final four, so she was a big threat. 5: Kiefer - He tried to get me out, but really threw his game away after Jacob's boot. Other then that, he had some strategy, but would've lost in the end. 6: Tom - I never really sensed that he was playing the game. He was there, but not all the time, and really didn't do much. 7: Kelli - She was good at challenges, but again I never really saw her playing the game.
Why You Shouldn't Vote for Carrie:
Carrie shouldn't get your vote because she was taking unnecessary risks by telling people that she was voting for them. At the merge, everyone got an idol with a unique power, and she could've thrown her entire game, not to mention her allies' games, away if just one of those people played an idol negating all the votes for them.
Why You Shouldn't Vote for Kesha:
Kesha claims that her strategy was to lie low the whole game, yet she also claims she made risky moves and was a power player. Honestly, the only side I ever saw of Kesha was her being too under the radar to be a threat. She put off making game changing moves until the final five when she was forced to make a decision.
Why You Should Vote for Me:
I played the game. I went into every vote thinking about what was best for me. I did make mistakes, such as betraying Nick, but even then it was because I had a better shot of winning against Carrie and Kesha. Overall, I think that my mistakes were outweighed by some of my other choices, such as ensuring I was in an alliance when voting time came, and that I would be safe. I was extremely devoted to the game, tried my best in challenges, and make more right decisions then wrong ones, and therefore I should get your vote.
Why I Voted for Kelli:
The Nick boot really put me in a bad position, as I had to choose between my two closest allies. After Nick left, I didn't want to rock the boat any more then I had too at the next Tribal Council. I wanted to vote for Chris, but he won immunity, and Kelli was the target by the rest of the tribe. I just went with what people wanted, and voted Kelli.
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Post by Jason [Rafe] on Dec 18, 2010 19:40:20 GMT -5
As a point of clarification: Carrie I'm not sure why you thought I was after you. I did comment once that you were one of the bigger threats but there were multiple times I said no to a Carrie vote.
And Kesha of course we were aware of your other alliance. You voted with Carrie and Julie every time and ignored my messages. Tom would tell me who you told him to vote for so it became very obvious. Also you refused to ever consider a Carrie or Julie vote. SUPER OBVIOUS. in fact it's more accurate to say that you never had an alliance with me. You never talked to me, never voted with me and voted me out first chance you got.
Just saying.
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Post by Fabio / Sean / Alex on Dec 18, 2010 22:58:38 GMT -5
There are more people on the jury, who would be respectible winners than in the final 3.
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